DAVID: Note my acceptance for animals learning involves them having a brain and the degree of complexity the new task involves. > > dhw: I have noted many times your firm belief that only organisms with a brain are capable of learning and processing information and working out their own methods of survival - although some, like the weaverbird, still have to rely on God to teach them how to build their nests. I wonder how many biologists and botanists agree with you that every single mode of plant survival has also had to be planned by God.-I don't do consensus thinking. I make up my own conclusions.