dhw The above is a direct repetition of the argument that if our choices are dictated by cause and effect, we do not have free will (= determinism). Quite right. However, there are other approaches to the subject which you consider to be irrelevant, just as you consider your definition to be the only accurate one. How many more times are we going to draw these circles?-For me this is nonsense.-For a person to believe (or not) they could have done otherwise in a certain circumstance they need to have read the appropriate definitions of free will?-I think not.-Now that you are familiar with the various definitions of free will, do you believe you could have done otherwise around a certain event ... say creating this website and forum?-And here, I am not asking whether you can envisage any other past possibilities.