David: I don't accept that such mechanisms are self-developed. Their presence makes for enormous genomic complexity, beyond Darwin's own imagination, far beyond the possibility it all developed by chance with no purpose. > > Rom: What are the chances of some universal intelligence doing it? > > Are you stepping away from the definition of chance ... ie something we can't predict accurately?-I don't see any unguided mechanism capable of what has resulted. > > Rom: Essentially you seem to be arguing that this universe has a purpose. Personally I don't see it other than the purpose we may ascribe to it.-And the purpose I see is the arrival of sentient beings, us.