Romansh I don't buy that David. > > So once an emergent behaviour is understood sufficiently to be explainable it ceases to be emergent? > > But I am glad that you think 'consciousness' does not disobey the first law.-No, I just don't think that the you tube pendulum was an emergent pheomenon. The mechanics were set up to surprise you in advance. Life also emerges from biochemistry, not as a physical setup.