David: Which is cart and which is horse? Only intelligence can make useful information for the function of processes such as life. I think the function then is automatic by following the information plans. > > Bbella: The way I see it, intelligence doesn't "make" or create information it uses information to make/create life and whatever IS. Information - or all that IS, is eternal "material" in a sense, that intelligence uses to create What IS.-Do you think the process of creating the universe and life within it began with pre-existing information?