dhw I think we are playing a definition game here.-For me agnosticism is primarily about how we handle knowledge and NOT belief. If we assume this is the case then it is perfectly possible to a theist and an agnostic at the same time; Mark Vernon is a case in point. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Vernon-If we reduce agnosticism to how we handle belief, then if we agnostics neither believe nor disbelieve in god this is fair enough and personally I hold it to be a logical position.-Of course weak atheists also neither believe nor disbelieve in god. = By definition!-So are you a weak atheist dhw ... by definition?