We are way off base. The Bible is the Bible. Neither of you are competent interpreters. It says they disobeyed. They lost their inocense. What has that got to do with agnostocism? > > It is to do with thinking in dualistic terms David ... but it has nothing to do with agnosticism as such. So I agree there. > > edit > I have much right and ability to interpret god's word as any Biblical scholar.-Agreed. There is too much over-interpretation from an anthropomorphic viewpoint