dhw I hope you will also keep at least one section of your own mind open to the possibility of intent.-I have to go to work now and I will answer probably tomorrow in more depth.-BUT your wording belies your neutrality on the free will problem. Your wording suggests I have a little homunculus controlling my beliefs and the arguments of others that I should find convincing.-You have reduced the self to a semantic issue. Semantically I have no problem with this. The question again becomes philosophically where I should draw the border around the self?