dhw: How do you know? Also pure speculation. As is faith in chance, your God, and my panpsychist hypothesis. No harm in speculating. It's when people take a firm decision that they are forced into defending irrationality.-We are back to how do you know that you love your wife, or she loves you? I don't think what I am defending, panentheism, is irrational. It feels right to me and it answers my quesions about reality. Your irrationality is my rationality. To each his own.