However my preferred answer, as I've expressed before, based on the logical principle of Ockham's Razor, is that the universe appeared as a "fluctuation in the void", involving no pre-existing intelligence. > > George, even tho the universe as we know it may have appeared from a "fluctuation in the void" this doesn't discount the possibility of an older, more advanced life form coming before us, or us being a product of another older life form other than ourselves, right? - I just go by the evidence. If you can come up with evidence of such beings I'm prepared to accept your hypothesis. Otherwise it is no better than fiction.