Again, that math I was throwing around, was mine, in an attempt to try and discuss it in a way that could reach David and dhw. > > The author's computed rates for violent deaths when death rate is looked at is less than 1%. This is adjusted for birth rates, nonviolent death rates, all the stochastic math that would just look like garbage to you guys. > > That stuff isn't in the book, just the tables, but the papers he pulls them from are a great read if you like equations! :-D-I think they would be interesting. Learning the statistics for complex systems is something I need to be doing more of anyway, whether I like it or not.