Dhw is not fluffy; he is dogmatically on his picket fence! > > The standard agnostic reply is the view is so much better from the fence. > > Nevertheless I think the metaphor is little mixed up - I would argue that it is the agnostics who are in the garden (including Eden) and it is the theists, atheists, deists and dare I say it panentheists who are sitting uncomfortably on their various climbed pickets. > > > This is in jest - sort of -It makes for a big set of backyards in your neighborhood. My feet are planted firmly on my philosophic ground! Panentheists are into everything. That should be obvious. Scoobydoo, see we do have fun.