BBella: What really bothers me about this whole post connected to the last sentence above is that it all made complete sense to me. I could picture the whole thing happening as I read, and I know very little science jargon. Maybe I just have a very vivid imagination?

ABEL: I try to keep things simple enough for me to understand. I am happy that you can too.

DAVID: What bothers me is the whole scientific world is unaware of the material you two seem to 'know'. I do science. Can you explain more?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111031081920.htm

In my post of 28 October at 17.41 I drew attention to another article that highlighted major problems with the whole theory of dark matter/energy:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14948730

Like BBella and unlike David and Abel, I am not a scientist, but if there is no scientific consensus, I look for coherence in the arguments. There is anything but scientific consensus here, but perhaps as we proceed the arguments may become more convincing. At the moment, I find it easier to imagine the spontaneous evolution of material earthly humans than that of material extra-terrestrial gods.