I guess you don't like the old Greeks. I'll stick with Aristotle. > > > > > > What are you talking about? Heraclitus and Xenophanes predate Socrates! > > > > I don't know philosophic history, knowing a little about Plato and aristotle. What do H & X give you? > > Xenophanes was the one who said that Homer got the Gods all wrong advocating one of the earliest forms of monotheism I'm aware of. His fragments agree with you more than Aristotle. > > Heraclitus took that further by declaring that the only thing in the universe that was true was that nothing ever stayed the same. He gave birth to process philosophy.-Thank you. I'll look at xenophanes!