But a better question would be for me to challenge you on how free will can exist without consciousness. I do not see how they are separable.-Funnily enough I agree with this statement strongly! This why I continue to avoid "consciousness" in my definition.-If we come to the conclusion we do not have free will, then our perception of consciousness is not what it seems. If we have no free will then what is my "self" that rattles around in my brain that thinks it does have free will?