Curtis asked what was the "minimum amount of uncertainty" that would cause me to choose, and he is confused by my need for "overwhelming evidence reinforced by personal experience". - I was quoting, and agreeing with, George Jelliss. Since it is the word "overwhelming" that confuses you, perhaps I should substitute evidence/experience that I find sufficiently convincing to convince me. No offence, but I find this discussion rather pointless. - Many thanks for your posting on the Kalam Cosmological Argument, which promises to be a much more productive thread. Please give me time to look into it.