Consciousness: Feser on dualism by Descartes (General)

by dhw, (2091 days ago) @ David Turell

QUOTE: “[i]This problem does not arise for the Scholastic conception of soul and body, because, again, [b]it does not regard them as distinct substances in the first place.[/b] A human being is one thing, not two, albeit a thing with both corporeal and incorporeal activities. And since it is one thing, [b]the question of interaction does not arise.[/b]" [/i](dhw’s bold)

DAVID: [i]This fits my view of soul body dualism as two interacting aspects of 'me', one material and one immaterial.[/i]

dhw: [i]No it doesn’t. The article could hardly be more emphatic: there is NO interaction between soul and body, because a human being is ONE THING, not two! See the bolds above. This is the compromise that I have been suggesting, though I go one step further: my version is that the material brain produces immaterial thought, emotion etc. (materialism) but the product itself may be (I would emphasize “may”) a form of energy that can exist independently of its original source. Hence NDEs and other psychic experiences[/i].

DAVID: [i]Your interpretation is exactly what my statement says. Material body, immaterial thought which represents my soul, an energy which can become independent after death[/i].

dhw: [...] [i]I didn’t think your own version envisaged the “soul” as the product of the brain, but if it does, then we have agreed on this compromise.[/i]

DAVID: [i]In my version the immaterial soul uses the material brain for thought capacity while alive. So of course there is continuous interaction.[/i]

Yes, I thought so. Exactly the opposite of the proposal put forward by the article and by my compromise.

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