If it takes at worst, 40,000 years to get a pug from a wolf, why can't natural selection be seen as a sufficient force for change? > > Any thoughts?-And now a new book with lots of negative comments about Darwin and his theory: - http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527466.100-survival-of-the-fittest-theory-darwi... Darwin Got Wrong" by Jerry Fodor and Massimo Piattelli-Palmarini. Lots of reasonable negative comments after the article, But to me both the article and the comments reinforce my contention that the process is completely passive.