DAVID: Innovations are not minor adaptations.

I know. That is why I keep repeating that we have no proof that the mechanism for adaptation is also capable of innovation. We have no proven explanation for innovation, which is why we hypothesize.

DAVID: My belief is unchanged. God is in control even if an inventive mechanism exists. I have no idea why you want God to give up full control. I realize as an agnostic, you can invent any kind of God you want. I'll stick with religion's view of Him as a Supreme Being.

dhw: Theists like yourself can and do invent any kind of God they want. If he exists, I have no quarrel with the concept of your God as a Supreme Being. That does not mean he does not have any characteristics in common with ourselves – who according to the bible are made in his image. I do not “want” him to give up full control. My theistic hypothesis is that he deliberately gave up full control (as below), and this explains the higgledy-piggledy history of life on Earth. Your own reading of his mind – that he created 50,000 spider webs etc. etc. in order to produce humans – makes no sense even to you, which is why you keep telling us his logic is different from ours.

Why would I keep repeating the same idea? I make sense to me. Stop denigrating my thought processes. Again slighting my view: the diversity provides econiche supplies of food so life can survive for all the time evolution took. You illogically want HIM to view spectacles. You've constantly downgraded God to a human level. Of course God is logical in His own purposeful way.