dhw: As for alternatives to your God, you know perfectly well that one is chance and one is the panpsychist hypothesis I have described over and over again (bottom up evolution), and you know that I find these hypotheses as difficult to believe in as the universal sourceless conscious mind you call God. And that is why I am an agnostic. (See also my response to the article on panpsychism)

DAVID: Yes I understand your hang ups.

dhw: I do not "deny" the designer or chance or the panpsychist hypothesis, but I cannot believe in any of them, since all of them defy logic in one way or another. In one post you understand my agnosticism, and in another you don’t.

I fully understand your agnosticism. You see the need for design, but can't find a designer.