dhw: David’s comment: His message is the micro point discussions we have on one tiny aspect of God's reality are beside the point. The overall picture proves God beyond a reasonable doubt.

Apart from the Goldilocks argument, which we have agreed on many times, if the rest of our discussions sank to this level of thinking, I would close the site down.

Sometimes it is good to present what pure believing passion sounds like. No sense of a smidgen of doubt. Are atheists that convinced of their position?