David : If first cause is an accepted approach, we will reach the point where a 'designer' cannot be denied. Each of us can then shape the designer's characteristics as each of us wills.

Tony: I prefer to infer his characteristics by the examination of his creation. A preference which is supported in the bible when it says that all that can be known the creator can be learned by studying his creation.

Exactly as I do it, and the Quran agrees.