dhw: The two interviews (the other having been with Michael Talbot) left me feeling very sad at the fate of these two brilliant men, but I do see why their ideas are so attractive, linking physics, the paranormal and eastern mysticism. This gives me a much better insight into the ideas you yourself have been putting forward. Many thanks again for the references.-I've mentioned two other books before about the interconnected universe: The Non-Local Universe. The New Physics and Matters of the Mind , 1999, and The Conscious Universe. Part and Whole in Modern Physical Theory , 1990. Both are right on this subject without the mysticism overlay. Authors: Nadeau and Kafatos. Worth reading.