dhw: Nobody knows the origin of consciousness, and the mystery is not solved by saying it was invented by someone who was conscious enough to think. > > DAVID: Materialism offers no way to explain why consciousness exists. > > dhw: Theism claims that something conscious explains consciousness. Not much of an explanation, is it? Since nobody knows the origin of consciousness, no “ - ism” can explain it!-Chance, design or Nagel's wish for a third way which is nebulous wishful thinking