dhw: Aw shucks! So back we go to your God preprogramming the weaverbird's nest into the first living cells for transfer through billions of years and organisms, or alternatively making a special visit (dabbling) to the prototype weaverbird to teach it how to build its nest, because without it he could never have produced humans. Oh, it would have been so much simpler if the mechanism God might have given to life did it all by itself!-Aw shucks yourself! I don't know God's mechanisms, but you keep trying to get me to tell you how He did it. I simply believe God guided evolution, without worrying about details. As an agnostic you sure worry a lot about God's machinations.