Tony: God driven creation DOES give a definitive answer, it is just not one that you want to hear. That is not meant as an insult, by the way, just a simple observation. God driven creation implies a purpose. Recognizing that there is a purposes imposes an obligation to learn and understand that purpose, and then to fulfill our part in it. > >David: Excellent set of posts. You and I are not too far apart. You prefer what I call dabbling, and my impression of God is that He is too powerful to need to do too much of that.-In your opinion, how much is too much for your conception of God?