dhw: Fine up to now. But then he goes and spoils it all with this: > > "It is something or Someone, that must be revealed and, in fact, has been: "In the beginning, was the Logos."" > > dhw:Just like all the others, this is a presupposition, or "fiat" (strange use of the word, but certainly more applicable to religion than to science). The usual atheist pots and theist kettles.-Just because he used "Logos" you slip away from the point. The laws, principal requirements of life, the mechanics of the universe all follow rules and laws we can define with our minds. There has to be a source of such an underlying organization of information. Only a thoughtful mind could create such a structure of laws and rules.