DHW writes: "I would argue that religion and science are perfectly compatible, so long as religion is not used to twist scientific facts, and science is not used to promote claims that it cannot substantiate." - But surely this requires a redefinition of what "religion" means, and a considerable pruning of current relogious dogmas. If "religion" is reduced to the very abstract approach of Spinoza or Einstein is it still "religion" or just "reverence for nature" which many atheists have?