The feeling is reciprocated many times over, David, as I think/hope it is with my immediate family and friends. I have, however, alienated some people through this website, and I'm sorry about that. > > Tony: People have a funny way of coming back around in your life, and if they don't then perhaps it is for the best, even if it sucks. I may disagree with you, David, Bella, George, or any number of others that have come through here, but I greatly value our debates and, even when I get frustrated or flustered, always consider all of you with the highest degree of respect and hopefully, friendship.-Agree with you Tony. dhw, those folks were not really alienated so much as frustrated with your logic staying on the pickets. This is one marvelous site for discussion.