b bella: To relate more directly to your question, I am not even entirely certain what it means to have a 'spiritual' form, other than that it implies a different level of existence. From my readings, I can say some things about it. It is NOT 100% separate from physical reality, but it IS different in kind. A purer form of energy would fit that criteria, as it exists both within the physical realm and outside of it at the same time.-This is exactly my position. God is a form that we cannot fully imagine and exists within and without our reality. Panentheism. dhw, take note.