dhw: Meanwhile, it saddens me to see the horrible mess the world is in. -ROMANSH: While I understand why you might feel this way here are a couple of links to cheer you up.-http://agnosticsinternational.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1256 and-http://agnosticsinternational.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=18043#p18043-Romansh, thanks for the two links. No doubt because of my technical incompetence, I couldn't get anything from the Hans Rosling one. Just blank squares. I must have missed something on the homosexuality thread too, but I found the subsequent discussion pretty gloomy. I'm very cheerful by nature, though, and am smiling broadly after a fine Bank Holiday Monday, Jubilee lunch.