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> DAVID: [b]he gave us life to handle. Dayenu.[/b]
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> dhw: [i]An atheist might say we have life to handle. What a stroke of luck. And an agnostic might say we have life to handle, and we have no idea how we got it. If they spoke Hebrew, they might add “dayenu”. Where does that get us?[/i]
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> DAVID: [i]We have a gift of life. Dayenu tells us 'it is enough'. Not to question its 'reason[/i]'.
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> dhw: [i]I know what it means. And atheists and agnostics can say the same. What is it supposed to prove? We are all agreed that we have the gift of life If that is enough, why are you so keen to prove the existence of God, and to convince yourself and us that we and our food were his one and only goal? I would like to think that you and I and millions of others share a burning desire for knowledge, and even if we can never solve all the mysteries, it is an admirable trait of us humans that we never give up the search.[/i]
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> I'm just a little surprised that you have not deigned to comment.
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> dhw:[i] I’m delighted that you agree with Musk that “[b]climate change risk is real[/b]”, and that you acknowledge the damage being done by current practices, and are in favour of balanced measures to prevent further escalation. We both condemn silly exaggerations aimed at creating panic. We even agree that without international cooperation, the Paris Agreement is toothless, and I expect you too are dismayed by the obvious truths in Hossenfelder’s analysis. In fact our only disagreement here is on the role being played by Trump, who is now playing a central role in ensuring that Hossenfelder’s prophecy will come true.[/i]
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> DAVID: [i]How real is the risk is still theoretical. My concept of it is much smaller than yours.[/i]
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> You have agreed with me and with Musk that the dangers are real, not “theoretical”! Pollution, deforesting etc. are happening now. You are proud of the steps being taken in your country to reduce carbon emissions. And we agree that there has to be a balanced approach. Dayenu!