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> > [b]God and evolution: weaverbirds[/b]
> > 
> > dhw: [i]So please tell us in your own words why you think your God had to design the weaverbird’s nest in order to design Africans and their food, whereas he was quite happy to enable other birds to do their own designing.[/i]
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> > DAVID: [i]He wished to give these birds extra special egg protection for His own reasons. That is as far as I can go.[/i]
> > 
> > dhw: So you have come up with a theory which makes absolutely no sense even to you, but presumably you expect it to be taken seriously! Your two books [i]Science vs Religion[/i]  and [i]The Atheist Delusion [/i]are based firmly and brilliantly on reasoned arguments in defence of the God theory. Design by a designer makes perfect sense. But when it comes to discussing the possible purposes, methods and nature of your God, you abandon reason altogether, even to the point of ridiculing your all-powerful God’s inefficiency. 
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> You have combined three separate issues. Yes, God is the overall  designer, but individual examples have different reasons and causes as approached by God. I can only guess at God's reasons in individual examples. That I think His use of evolution was an inefficient choice is a third separate issue. God had His reasons that we do not know.
> > 
> > [b]Balance of Nature: human[/b]
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> > DAVID: [i]Only the Brazilians can take action!!! While you panic.[/i]
> > 
> > dhw: […][i] Of course only the different countries can take the necessary actions to stop the damage. (Hence the Paris Agreement.) So who do you think is right: your North Americans, who replant, or your Brazilians, who continue to practise deforestation (although they have slightly reduced the amount)?[/i]
> > 
> > DAVID: [i]My caring or not about the Amazon forest will not change events Brazilians try upon.[/i]
> > 
> > dhw: I am not asking you to govern Brazil! We are exchanging views. So do you approve of the NA loggers who replant, or do you support the Brazilians who continue to practise deforestation?
> 
> I'm with our NA loggers and I suggest our State Department complain to Brazil about the Amazon.
> > 
> > DAVID:[i] I can only applaud my countries here.[/i]
> > 
> > dhw: "My countries"? I presume you mean you support your fellow American loggers, Which means you support the proposal that measures should taken NOW to prevent further escalation of the damage that is already being caused by current practices. Thank you. 
> 
> See above. We cannot tell Brazil what to do, but ask for consideration.
> > 
> > DAVID: [i]Of course, but are the Brazilians learning anything? Doubtful.[/i]
> > 
> > dhw: No, they are not, and they and the farmers and the fossil fuel producers and users never will if people like you and Trump (“Drill, baby, drill!”) tell them they can carry on because the damage they are causing is not damage but is make-believe invented by a worldwide bunch of phony scientists.
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> The UK policies will lead you to freeze in the dark.