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> dhw:[i] Back we go: why could your God the creator not have created the mechanism for expansion as well as complexification?[/i]
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> DAVID: [i]Same answer. A true designer who knows what he wishes to design, does not give the job off to secondhand methods. The outcome is not controlled. [/i]
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> dhw: [i]We are talking here about the human brain. So when your God designed the autonomous mechanism for complexification, which he did not control because we are free to come up with the ideas that require complexification, he was not a true designer. Ts, ts.[/i]
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> DAVID: [i]Total distortion. God undoubtedly designed previous brains and our current one with the complexification with the exact purpose to allow handling new uses of the brain.[/i]
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> dhw: [i]That is precisely what I am saying – if he exists, God provided the complexification mechanism, and you have agreed that it works without his intervention. He does not control the process whereby cells complexify in response to new uses. But according to you, a true designer controls everything![/i]
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> DAVID: [i]Your wrong extrapolation of the meaning of a designing God. He obviously sets up necessary mechanism to run on their own. Sexual reproduction works on its own, as does embryology. You rigid brain invented a tunnel-visioned God who does not exist. Purpose is not a tunnel.[/i]
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> Thank you for agreeing with me, even though you say I am wrong. Brain complexification is one of those mechanisms which you agree runs on its own and changes all the time by autonomously making new connections. So it is patently absurd to say that he always wants control, and therefore he could not also have given the cells the means of adding to their numbers! How on earth this deliberate sacrifice of control makes him tunnel-visioned is beyond my comprehension. Praise be to human reason, you have now jettisoned your tunnel-visioned theory that your God specially designed every life form, natural wonder etc. for the one and only purpose of designing humans plus food, but any purpose IS a tunnel! It channels all activity to run in a particular direction. For a possible purpose which we have both agreed on and which encompasses the whole history of life, see your "theory of evolution" thread.