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> > DAVID: [i]I said farming probably required God's help.[/i]
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> > dhw: [i]The only forms of “help” you have offered us are 3.8-billion-year-old preprogramming, occasional dabbling, or full hands-on dabbling. I find them all hard to swallow, but perhaps in the meantime you have come up with another mode of help. (Please don’t say “guidelines” without explaining what form they could possibly take.)[/i]
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> > DAVID: [i]I didn't find God hard to swallow, since I have concluded a designer must exist. You've covered the ways I think God does it.[/i]
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> > dhw: I am not challenging your belief in God. I'm pointing out what seems to me an extremely far-fetched theory concerning the way he operates – which is based entirely on your assumption that ants and a few million other organisms have no autonomous intelligence of their own, and their seemingly intelligent behaviour had to be preprogrammed 3.8 billion years ago or personally directed by your God.
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> I know how you feel and think. The book 'Nature's I.Q.', from which weaverbird nests appeared  here is an example of how the faithful think about God and ow He must step in and help.