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> > DAVID: [i]Much of biological controls are feedback loops in animals but this look very different in plants if large complex molecules can exert precise controls. Having such specific molecules requires design and a designer.[/i]
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> > dhw: I always accept your arguments for design, but you have given us only two possible methods of design. One is a programme  your God created 3.8 billion years ago, to be passed on by the first cells to all their descendants, containing instructions for every single life form, econiche, lifestyle, strategy, bacterial response and natural wonder for the whole of life’s history. The other is direct dabbling, i.e. direct creation. Which of these do you think he used for temperature sensing, or can you perhaps think of a different method of design?
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> Good question: is there any other way for a designer to run evolution? Of course my initial simplistic answer was preprogramming, which assumes God has the full capability to write a software that goes from the start of life with bacteria to human, and never steps in. The many patterns of development I've described in the past, would suggest this is a plausible scenario.
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> That thought swallows religions view of God as totally all powerful, and that judgement is pure faith. We cannot know if God has some limits in His ability to set up everything in advance.  Adler is q