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> > DAVID: [i]Since it is obvious to me God used evolution to create living forms and He wanted the arrival of humans, He controlled the advance of evolution, but viruses may have been a side effect of the drive for life. They appear to have been present since the very beginning, which also suggests they are a purposeful addition. Evidence is not clear.[/i]
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> > Dhw: [i]So your God may have purposefully added bad viruses and bacteria, or he may have lost control, or he may have deliberately sacrificed control to let evolution take its own course (you left out that alternative). Evidence is not clear. You are prepared to consider the possibility that he did not HAVE total control, and yet you are not prepared to consider the possibility that he did not WANT total control.[/i]
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> >  dhw: That is the point at issue, and still you refuse to consider the possibility that he did not WANT total control.
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> I have never thought He was not in full control. My statement of viruses as a  'side effect' certainly suggests the option that His control was not complete, but that has two interpretations: He did mean to lose total control or He didn't mean it. Om balance He demonstrates extraordinary purpose which still support full control.