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> dhw: [i]In the context of evolutionary history, the theistic choice is between your God directing every innovation etc. and the organisms doing their own directing in response to prevailing conditions. Chance doesn’t come into it, except for environmental changes, which are a major problem for your theory.[/i]
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> DAVID:[i] No problem. Get rid of the dinosaurs and we arrive.[/i]
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> The problem is the extent to which your God controls the environment. But perhaps your latest theory is that he controls every environmental change, global and local, that results in organismal change.  
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> DAVID: [i]As for the bush of life, I simply accept it as God's method of evolution providing food energy for life to have the energy to survive for all the time evolution needed to advance to us.[/i]
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> dhw: [i]Why “all the time evolution needed…” if God directed everything? Surely you mean all the time your all-powerful God needed to fulfil his sole purpose of advancing evolution to us. And that still doesn’t explain why he had to design eight stages of whale, the monarch’s migration and the weaverbird’s nest in order to keep life going until he himself could produce the human brain. Would life have ended without them?[/i]
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> DAVID: [i]Same reply. Without nature's balance, not enough food to continue.[/i]
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> Yes, life goes on so long as there is enough food for any old organism to survive on. Nothing to do with your God’s sole purpose of producing the human brain.