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> DAVID:[i] I 'appear' to you in strange ways. Why shouldn't He plan all of evolution to produce humans? I see that as His purpose. The bush of life provides us with many resources that we now manage. Show me why history of evolution tells us humans were required. They weren't.[/i]
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> Nor was the duck-billed platypus. You don’t even know why the whale was “required”. The history of evolution tells us that once bacteria were on earth, nothing else was “required”, since they have survived from the beginning. But I have fallen over backwards to offer you the possibility that your God may have experimented in his efforts to create a being similar to himself (that was “off the reservation” until you decided it was a possibility), or that the idea for humans came late on in the process (rejected), and that he might have dabbled (though that raises the question of why he had to dabble the different hominids and hominins before he got to sapiens, not to mention the question of why he had to design the vast bush with its 99% failure rate if he could dabble humans without any difficulty).
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> DAVID: [i]As for whales the only way it can work is if He designs all eight stages. Envirnomental change is simple. We see the animals move from land to water as changed [/i][i]mammals, but still mammals, in a new environment with overall environment the same[/i].
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> And why did he have to design it in eight stages if he knew what he wanted (though you don’t know why he wanted it)? I don’t know what you mean by a new environment with overall environment the same. The whole point of the changes was to enable the whale to live in a new environment – water not land. And yet you see no link between speciation and the environment.