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> >  > dhw: [i]The IM hypothesis is a third option, regardless of its source. [/i]-> DAVID:[i] But in my pattern of thought, the only source of an IM is God.[/i] >  > In this context I am not arguing about the source but am presenting an alternative (possibly theistic) option that removes the anomalies from your rigid concept of God&apos;s methods and purpose.-But a &apos;possibly theistic&apos; IM for me is just part of initial programming. I see the possibility of God allowing semiautonomous inventions.->  > Unlike you, I do not work from a conclusion.... However, you cannot stand the idea that maybe the diversity is the result of the free-for-all which marks the whole history of evolution. That doesn&apos;t fit in with your preconceived notion of God, who must have planned everything because his purpose was to create humans.-Right, I don&apos;t see a free-for-all. I simply see life&apos;s ability given by God to diversify as part of His plan.   >  > dhw: As usual you fall back on chance or design, and although you admit that we don&apos;t even know how powerful God is, you reject the possibility that he might deliberately have provided an autonomous, information-gathering, inventive mechanism which set in motion the higgledy-piggledy free-for-all that appears to characterize life&apos;s history.-I&apos;ve admitted above as I have over and over, a God-given IM, as a semiautonomous mechanism, may well be part of God&apos;s plan. Why all the diversity? It may well be part of His plan.-> dhw: I&apos;m afraid you&apos;re stuck with your weaverbird: once and for all, do you accept the possibility that it might have designed its own nest?-Frankly, I have no idea how it happened, but the weaverbird is not likely to have accomplished the entire form and design.