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> > Tony: When I listen to you two going back and forth, it always makes me smile.... then it makes me scratch my head at the things that aren&apos;t being discussed. >  > With all of this "intelligent cell" talk and "innovation from cell communities", has the scope of what you are saying really ever been considered?-This is the dhw approach, not mine. Look at all of my discussions refuting him.-> Tony:  You talk about developing a kidney, an eye, or a limb as if it were something trivial to design and implement. I would remind you that you are essentially talking about single celled organisms developing technology that humans don&apos;t even understand, much less have the capacity to duplicate.-I&apos;ve tried to tell him how complex the liver and kidney are. Cells with some degree of intelligent information to operate by, cannot come up with a kidney plan.-> Tony:  Not only are organs and tissues mindbogglingly complex, but the vast majority of them are considered to be "functionally perfect", and have been so for millions of years.-Exactly. >  > Tony: Just how much intelligence are you willing to ascribe to a single-celled organism, or even a collection of them?-Only a simple amount. That is why I think there is an inventive mechanism (placed there by God)in the genome to create by plan such complexity, and I think it is yet to be discovered. The other alternative is God stepping in at the Cambrian and designing everything on the spot ( actually about 10 million years).