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Introduction
The atheist delusion
Agnosticism
Evolution
The limitations of science
Origins
The nature of a 'Creator'
Where is it now?
Endings
Identity
Animals
Humans
Religion
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What should be taught in schools?
A mad world
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> > > dhw; So when organisms succeed, they have been preprogrammed to do so, but when they fail, it's bad luck. So much for teleology.-Don't throw out teleology so quickly. No one said it had to be a straight efficient path to humans.-> > dhw: How do you know the amount of time required for a community of intelligent beings to devise a new machine? As for your revision of my theistic slant, why not stick to God put intelligence in the cells to allow them to adapt as conditions changed? -God did but in the only version I favor: intelligent information to be used by the cells through their genome. The codes operate by using intelligent information-> > dhw: I'm not talking about responsibility or screwing up. I'm challenging the concept of God preprogramming the first living cells (or intervening) with every strategy that works, while we disregard those that don't. The scenario David categorically rejects is that your God may have invented an intelligent mechanism which went its own way ... creating a history of success and failure, full of surprise and variety (which I'd have thought would be much more entertaining for a creator anyway).-More entertaining, which gives God a personality taht may well notg be warrented. We know that success and failure led to humans, so the process worked, even if the exact details are still muyserious
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