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> > > Here you put mankind its actions very firmly separate from nature. This is of course a reflection of a dualistic mindset. That you think you have a balanced view of course is a matter opinion. Of course we all know that my opinions can be found at the origin (0,0). >  > Mankind&apos;s actions, and the worldview/mindset that produce those actions, are dysfunctional because we TRY to separate ourselves from nature. In general, people view nature as something here for us to exploit. So in that sense, our actions ARE separate from nature, they are not in unity with it. Let&apos;s look at a few examples. We destroy vast swatches of the natural world to produce things that we could live without, for example, the rain forest. We destroy entire populations of animals for non-essential items, luxury items(Whales, seals, rhino&apos;s, elephants, etc). We create non-essential items that we will at some point have to dispose of that are toxic to our environment. We genetically and chemically alter our foods so that we can produce more and more. This is actually one of my favorites because not only does it poison our environment, it poisons our bodies, and the feather in the cap is that we end up WASTING a very large percentage of it.-By this argument... you have more in common with Dawkins & Co. than anyone else.  Have you ever read humanist literature?  It&apos;s 60&apos;s environmentalism reborn!  Most of the arguments you&apos;re making here are the arguments you&apos;ll see when listening to NPR or watching PBS... -You need to check yourself before you wreck yourself... (!)