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> >  I wouldn&apos;t call it Eden, but then I don&apos;t believe Eden ever existed! > I too am skeptical of a literal interpretaion of the Garden of Eden story. As a metaphor though it is quite interesting. Joseph Campbell explains it nicely.-[i]"That is to say, put yourself back in the position of paradise before you thought in terms of good and evil. You don&apos;t hear that much from the pulpits."[/i]  Here he is trying to say the old testament is advising us not to think in dualistic terms.  -> [b]Knowledge[/b]: "[i]information which is accepted as being true by general consensus among those who are aware of it[/i]." >  > [b]Belief[/b]: "[i]information which individuals accept as being true although there is no general consensus on its truth[/i]." >  > I see faith simply as a strong belief, often in a religious context, which doesn&apos;t require any further definition.-I think it is useful to to agree on definitions. Helps with clarity of discourse. But the question remains have we defined say "knowledge" into existence? And does this remain a thought. I understand this is solipsism gone mad - but this I suspect is at the very core of agnosticism.