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> Apologies to dhw if I have directed this thread in unwanted directions. Perhaps it should be renamed.  - In reply to David Turell&apos;s latest comment. Professor Behe&apos;s views have been disowned by his own University: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behe - The Department of Biological Sciences at Lehigh University  has published an official position statement which says  "It is our collective position that intelligent design  has no basis in science, has not been tested experimentally,  and should not be regarded as scientific." - Another well-known creationist, Professor Andy McIntosh of Leeds, has also had his views disowned by his institution: - http://www.leeds.ac.uk/media/news/mcintosh.htm - "As an academic institution, the University wishes to distance itself publicly from theories of creationism and so-called intelligent design which cannot be verified by evidence." - I have seen Prof. McIntosh speak at one of the creation conferences held in Leicester. He is a passionate speaker, and believes in a literal interpretaion of Genesis.