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> > Naturally I contest this last interpretation. As an atheist I have "made up" nothing. I contend that my views are strictly based on the evidence. Our difference is that you do not agree with my evaluation of the evidence, which I consider to be an objective evaluation, but you consider to be subjective. - George: I think each of us is making a subjective evaluation, no matter how honestly each of us evaluates our thought patterns. You are honestly evaluating the evidence from your perspective and it is objective for you. When I was totally confirmed agnostic (and by that I mean I still don&apos;t think much of manmade theologies even though I have decided there is a greater power, attributes unknown) I decided not to sit up on a fence but come down to one side or the other based on the evidence in science that I studied. Not the Bible, science. What I found made me decide that the facts pointed to a greater power &apos;beyond a reasonable doubt&apos;. Absolute proof, of course not. But it was enough to satisfy me, and that has to be a subjective decision. I have faith in my reasoning capacity, and I am sure you do also. We see the same facts, but we make differing conclusions. That has to be based in part on personal preference. And that represents a personal bias on each of our parts, a subjective influence, recognized or not.