AgnosticWeb.com
Log in
Register
Search:
Back to the entry by dhw
Post reply
Reply to the message by
dhw
Name:
E-mail:
(optional, won't be displayed directly)
Leave this field empty:
Homepage:
(optional)
Leave this field empty:
Location:
(optional)
Remember me (cookie)
Category:
Introduction
The atheist delusion
Agnosticism
Evolution
The limitations of science
Origins
The nature of a 'Creator'
Where is it now?
Endings
Identity
Animals
Humans
Religion
Art
Politics
What should be taught in schools?
A mad world
General
Subject:
Formatting help
skip to input
format text bold
[b]bold text[/b]
format text italic
[i]italic text[/i]
insert hyperlink
[link=http://example.com/]link text[/link] / [link]http://example.com/[/link]
set text color
[color=#rgb]colored text[/color]
font size
[size=small]small text[/size]
[size=large]large text[/size]
insert list
[list][*]list item[/list]
insert image
[img]http://example.com/image.jpg[/img]
left: [img=left]http://example.com/image.jpg[/img]
right: [img=right]http://example.com/image.jpg[/img]
thumbnail: [img=thumbnail]http://example.com/image.jpg[/img]
thumbnail left: [img=thumbnail-left]http://example.com/image.jpg[/img]
thumbnail right: [img=thumbnail-right]http://example.com/image.jpg[/img]
:-)
;-)
:-P
:-D
:-|
:-(
Message:
> Carl: [i]"Many strongly held positions begin in the gut and then rely on the brain to come up with the appropriate justification."[/i] - You also draw our attention to divine revelation, and point out that God could prove his existence by appearing before a panel of esteemed scientists to perform miracles and answer all the big questions. - We've had quite a few discussions on the nature of belief, and most of us agreed that some sort of "inner conviction" (= gut feeling) was an integral part. The brain can certainly justify anything, as can be seen from the rational arguments for and against the existence of God, so what is the source of the inner conviction either way? To link up with the "origin of life" thread, how can atheists be convinced that life has arisen spontaneously ... one key condition for atheism ... even though there is absolutely no evidence that it can do so? Why are Christians so certain that not only does God exist, but he's also personal, all-good and loving? How can they be sure they would not have been convinced Muslims/Hindus/ Buddhists had they been born into another society? - Revelation obviously plays a huge part in the monotheistic religions, but unless God accepts Carl's challenge, I don't see how we can know [i]"who has had it, who has imagined it and who is faking it"[/i]. The same applies to near-death and extra-sensory experiences, ghosts, visions etc. Unless I have or see one myself, I'm going to entertain doubts, but on the agnostic's inevitable other hand, why should anyone have an "inner conviction" that they are all imaginary or fake? - Not so sure about [i]"all knowledge is suspect, especially scientific knowledge". [/i] I'd prefer "[b]including[/b] scientific knowledge". Otherwise, our colour is the same, even if we spell it differently!
OK - Submit
Preview