Post reply

Reply to the message by dhw

Name:

E-mail: (optional, won't be displayed directly)

Leave this field empty:

Homepage: (optional)

Leave this field empty:

Location: (optional)

Remember me (cookie)

Category:

Subject:

Formatting help

skip to input

format text bold: [b]bold text[/b]
format text italic: [i]italic text[/i]
insert hyperlink: [link=http://example.com/]link text[/link] / [link]http://example.com/[/link]
set text color: [color=#rgb]colored text[/color]
font size: [size=small]small text[/size]; [size=large]large text[/size]
insert list: [list][*]list item[/list]
insert image: [img]http://example.com/image.jpg[/img]; left: [img=left]http://example.com/image.jpg[/img]; right: [img=right]http://example.com/image.jpg[/img]; thumbnail: [img=thumbnail]http://example.com/image.jpg[/img]; thumbnail left: [img=thumbnail-left]http://example.com/image.jpg[/img]; thumbnail right: [img=thumbnail-right]http://example.com/image.jpg[/img]

:-)
;-)
:-P
:-D
:-|
:-(

Message:

> [b]Balance of Nature: Theology[/b]
> 
> DAVID: Making my point. God is not human.
> 
> dhw: [i]Of course he’s not human. How can an immaterial, eternal, sourceless mind be a human being? But that does not mean he is not human in any way, which is your great dodge whenever I support your own humanizations (which you contradict by also insisting that he is selfless), or suggest different ones (e.g. experimentation, the pleasure of making discoveries or having new ideas) in order to counter your ridicule of him as a messy, cumbersome, inefficient designer. Stop dodging![/i]
> 
> DAVID: [i]Totally wrong. God is not an inefficient designer of organisms. His evolutionary method of creation is![/i]!
> 
> I have never criticized the design of organisms! I criticize your ridicule of his method of fulfilling the purpose you impose on him, and the alternatives that I propose above concern the goal and/or the method. (But on the other thread, I have pointed out that you also ridicule him by having him inefficiently issue instructions that fail millions of times over.) Stop dodging!
> 
> [b]Balance of Nature: human[/b]
> 
> DAVID: [i]The USA record of carbon control is very good. Why bother with Paris if the giants, India and China, ignore all the rules? [[/i]…]
> 
> dhw: […] [i]If nations are governed by rulers who do not want to cooperate, there is no hope of a solution. Currently, this is clearly the case with the US. How can the necessary pressure be put on non-cooperative nations if the world’s most powerful economic nation sets the tone by going its own way[/i]?
> 
> DAVID: [i]International pressure isn't working now, is it? The Paris accord is just what it is, a bunch of useless documents. Only strength works. If the world applied hurtful sanctions India and China might respond properly.[/i]
> 
> You have hit the proverbial nail on the head. “The world” consists of all the nations in it, including the USA. Why should India and China “respond properly” if the USA refuses to use its strength to support the rest of “the world” and instead sets the example of non-cooperation?