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> > [b]Balance of Nature: Theology
> > 
> > God and evolution[/b]
> > 
> > DAVID: [i]He can express a human attribute by mimicry![/i]
> > 
> > dhw: And it came to pass that the all-knowing creator of all things knew nothing of love, enjoyment, interest, relationships, recognition, worship, but when he did see human love, enjoyment, interest, relationships, recognition and worship he did imitate them in a non-human way. Please stop all this nonsense! Either he does or he doesn’t have attributes which he has passed on to us. 
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> Per Adler God is not human in any way. He gave us the brains to create all the above attributes on our own.
> > 
> > [b]Balance of Nature: human[/b]
> > 
> > dhw:  [i]Yes, there needs to be a balance between avoiding environmental disaster and avoiding economic and social disaster.[/i]
> > 
> > We seem to be in agreement here, but then off you go again:
> > 
> > DAVID: [i]All scientists hired by the UN are in lockstep with UN propaganda.[/i]
> > 
> > dhw: [i]There are scientists all over the world who believe that we need to change our current practices – hence the agreement of nearly 200 nations that action is required. Do you really think none of them have studied the “nitty-gritty”, or they have all been paid by the UN to tell lies? Does it not occur to you that the governments of some 200 countries might have been influenced by the truth?[/i]
> > 
> > DAVID: [i]The truth is in the large group on Watt's site.[/i]
> > 
> > dhw: You have just agreed that India and China should switch, and Brazil should emulate your NA loggers by replanting. Are they or are they not causing damage to the environment? 
> 
> I'll go far to agree they are altering their climate.
> 
> > dhw: Yesterday you accepted the need for a balanced approach, as above. Today you pretend that “as quickly as pragmatically possible” = panic mode. Since when did a balanced approach mean panic? It’s you who are “into word games”! 
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> "as quickly as pragmatically possible" equals panic mode. It is the word 'quickly'. I would agree to pragmatically advance at no specified speed.
> > 
> > dhw: [i]I would suggest that you now write to President Trump, urging him to rejoin the Paris Agreement and devote his mighty powers of persuasion to getting all countries to cooperate in following America’s example in finding the best and quickest ways to prevent environmental, social and economic disasters.[/i]
> > 
> > DAVID:[i] Unfortunately I agree with Trump.[/i]
> > 
> > dhw: Unfortunate indeed. You approve of replanting, you agree that Brazil should follow suit, you agree that India and China should stop digging, you know as well as I do that current practices are polluting the air, earth and water, you agree that these practices should end as quickly as pragmatically possible, but you don’t agree that for this to happen, there has to be international cooperation, and you are happy to have your country lead the way in preventing such cooperation and in encouraging other countries to do the same. Drill, baby, drill. Dig, baby, dig. Poison us, baby, poison us.
> 
> I must stay pragmatic with my country and reject all the UN foisted panic.