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Introduction
The atheist delusion
Agnosticism
Evolution
The limitations of science
Origins
The nature of a 'Creator'
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> > DAVID: [i]I follow simple logic. God created evolution and history tells us how He did it, not the why of His choice of method. Total logic to me. It is ridiculous to claim my theism is wrong just because I don't question God's choice of method.[/i] > > > > dhw: [i]I am not questioning your theism but your theory of evolution! History does not tell us the why of your God's creation of evolution. [b]It is you who insist that the only “why” is to create humans plus food. And if you insist that his method of achieving his one and only goal was to perform countless acts of creation that had no connection with his one and only goal, it is patently absurd to claim that your theory is totally logical[/b].[/i] > > > > DAVID: [i]You completely ignore God creates history or doesn't He? We are left to interpret the facts. Adler and I believe we are the result against all natural odds. Adler uses the theory to obtain His proof of God. You are questioning one of the great philosophers of the 20th century.[/i] > > > > dhw: There are none so blind as those who will not see. For the thousandth time, this dispute is not over the existence of God, but over your illogical belief that[i] although your God’s one and only intention was to design humans plus food, he deliberately and individually designed countless species and econiches that had no connection with humans plus food.[/i] > > There is no point in your constantly calling on Adler’s “proof of God” to defend this theory, which you yourself admit you cannot explain. The nearest you have come is to point out that efficient humans, if they have just one purpose, will try to achieve it directly, which suggests that they are more efficient than your "roundabout" God! > > There is nothing roundabout a God who does nothing but what He wishes to do. That is your blindness.
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